Article 30618 of alt.solar.thermal: Path: news.misty.com!not-for-mail From: nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu Newsgroups: alt.solar.thermal Subject: Re: Heat pump - heat concentrator Date: 7 Jun 2008 14:24:21 -0400 Organization: Villanova University Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <1212853653.911.1212843719@bayman.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: acadia.ece.villanova.edu X-Trace: max.inside.misty.com 1212859394 4022 153.104.44.130 (7 Jun 2008 17:23:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@misty.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.misty.com alt.solar.thermal:30618 David Williams wrote re: >-> >... plastic Coca Cola bottles filled with water. >-> Over time, they lose water through the walls. > >How much time? They hold pressurized Coke for long periods, so they >can't be very porous. Coke in PET bottles has a 6-week shelf-life in a store, determined by loss of CO2 pressure. Googling, I couldn't find a water vapor transmission rate for PET bottles (in say lb/ft^2-h per "Hg of vapor pressure difference per mil of wall thickness), nor their wall thickness. OTOH, http://www.devicelink.com/mpb/archive/98/09/005.html says 100 square inches of "low-density polyethylene" loses about 0.4 grams of water per day per mil (0.001") of thickness at 40 C (104 F), with 0% RH on one side and 35% on the other. A graph shows how this decreases linearly with inverse (1000/T(K)) temperature... Nick